tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96033924639858208.post2550428886536677117..comments2023-04-01T20:15:56.666+02:00Comments on Yaakov Nemoy: The KDE - Gnome ChallengeYankeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16006445457394865979noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96033924639858208.post-57706441443766027632010-04-19T19:55:37.742+02:002010-04-19T19:55:37.742+02:00I'm going to say you both have it wrong. Very ...I'm going to say you both have it wrong. Very wrong. The point is that nautilus is already heavy. Tomboy is way to heavy. GNote is ok, but there's an emacs mode for that that's far more sophisticated. Using Rythmbox is asking for trouble. The same goes for pretty much everything KDE. If you use 80% of the features KDE or Gnome offers, please don't stop using it.<br /><br />If you use maybe 5 or 10% like i've been doing, it's time to reevaluate why you need all the excess baggage. Granted, i would rather not customize my own .xinitrc, but it's easier and more reliable than the chinese finger trap gnome-session has been. When it comes down to it, adding autostart programs in KDE is dropping +x scripts in various directories. MPD is far more robust than anything i've seen graphical, and you can pick any front end you want. Multimedia keys are one line of code in my xmonad configuration.<br /><br />When i say optimisation, i don't mean optimising just what i see and what i work with. I mean optimising it by not doing stupid things from the start. I pick the tool that does the job i need, and maybe we can have a talk about how to offer a cohesive easy to use desktop composed of these tools in the future.Yankeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16006445457394865979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96033924639858208.post-81395097034365654172010-04-17T23:53:00.866+02:002010-04-17T23:53:00.866+02:00I pretty much agree with what Peter said above, ex...I pretty much agree with what Peter said above, except that my complete desktop environment of choice is KDE, not GNOME.<br /><br />Manually configuring one's own xinitrc reminds me of the computing stone age and I'd miss many of KDE's features (and probably end up rewriting a poor copy of startkde in that month). It also strikes me as a gigantic waste of time: KDE just works for me, I don't have any need to build my own desktop environment.Kevin Koflerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00136078113749660013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96033924639858208.post-29833104923030601162010-04-17T10:27:51.416+02:002010-04-17T10:27:51.416+02:00I have tried them all, XFCE, LXDE, E16/17, KDE, Gn...I have tried them all, XFCE, LXDE, E16/17, KDE, Gnome, bare xinitrc <br />I would have been most happy with xinitrc if it wasn't the fact that at the end I start ALL gnome things for normal work of the laptop:<br />gnome-settings-daemon for the theming to work, gnome-power-manager for the battery and suspend/hibernate, tint for panel, openbox for window manager, nautilus or thunar for file manager (yes, I can use midnight commander, but i find it tedious for mount ssh shares manually all the time, it is much easier with nautilus! and faster once you configure the share it is always there one click away). This said there are lots and lots of useful gnome applets like revelation for passwords and tomboy for synchronized notes. This plus the fact that i constantly have Firefox running and it is proven to be the most memory hungry application on Linux desktop makes the switch from Gnome to xinitrc pointless for me. Also the music / radio player - I use rhuthmbox, I could use mpd with some simple frontend but guess what - it takes more CPU cycles when the file is not in the format it lies it makes transcoding on the go, I could use mplayer but then the GUIs suck for big collections. I also have to start something for he multimedia keys to work. <br />All this and at the end I have no CPU cycles spared nor RAM. So sorry to say it but yeah, it is pointless to live with xinitrc only. Unless one starts X just to use gvim and firefox only. Which I know some dudes (probably some gals too) do, but I am not one of them:) <br />Oh and by the way I have notices funny thing on Gnome desktop screen shots - the application launchers on the panel matches the notification icons in the panel for lots of people. Isn't this waste of space? So I switched to dockbarX and I am very happy with it. This is related as of talking about optimizing the desktop - less icons less distractions:)Peterhtto://malwkgad.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96033924639858208.post-15654920480084048902010-04-16T22:59:57.986+02:002010-04-16T22:59:57.986+02:00I couldn't avoid that, it wouldn't have be...I couldn't avoid that, it wouldn't have been fair. They are out there and legitimate alternatives, and if you're looking to get away from the Gnome/KDE hegemony, they are quite good.<br /><br />That said, you'd be very surprised how little you really need from your DE that isn't a google or two away, if you're motivated.Yankeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16006445457394865979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96033924639858208.post-47541943701361035722010-04-16T20:19:36.055+02:002010-04-16T20:19:36.055+02:00Touched on the LXDE/Xfce thing :D
Still, I don...Touched on the LXDE/Xfce thing :D <br />Still, I don't find workable for me building the desktop from pieces for a whole month, I have a lot of work to get done.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.com